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Fourth Engineer

Fourth Engineer is a rank used by the Royal Manticoran Merchant Marine.

Honorverse

In the Honorverse, the Star Empire of Manticore uses the rank of Fourth Engineer as the more junior of the two individuals holding a Third Engineers Certificate of Competency on freighters that carry two Third Engineers. On passenger liners with multiple people having billets that require at least a Third Engineers Certificate of Competency, as seniority goes down, their number goes up. So a passenger liner with 6 junior officers could have a Seventh Engineer. Other star nations only use the rank of Third Engineer with a number after it. Thus Third Engineer number one, Third Engineer number two, etc.

TRMN

In TRMN, a Fourth Engineer is a merchant marine engine officer who has completed their Merchant Marine Officer 0101 exam and served as a C-4 (Spacer II, Sr Ordinary Spacer, Technician, 2nd Cook or Medical Assistant) for 4 months Time In Grade and have appropriate Promotion Points, they are eligible to be promoted to this rank by their commanding officer (military) or Master (merchant marine) of the chapter. They can also be promoted, regardless of Time In Grade or Promotion Points during a ship upgrade if the ship needs more officers. They hold the Paygrade of C-11.

Real World

In the real world, a Fourth Engineer is an engineer in the UK and primarily Commonwealth countries (but Not the US) who holds a Certificate of Competency. They also hold the endorsement as Officer In Charge of an Engineering Watch. The same rank in the US is called Third Assistant Engineer. They could be a watch stander or a day worker. See Third Engineer for primary responsibilities.

Third Engineer

Third Engineer is a rank used by the Royal Manticoran Merchant Marine.

Honorverse

In the Honorverse, a Third Engineer is an engineering officer holding a Certificate of Competency (Star Empire of Manticore and some other star nations) or a License as Third Engineer. They also hold an endorsement as Officer In Charge of an Engineering Watch. They are primarily a watchstander, standing watch in the engine room while underway. Their duties include inspection and upkeep of the life support systems and hydroponics. On a passenger liner they could be a day worker focusing life support.or hydroponics.

Third Engineers are considered Operational Level officers.

TRMN In TRMN, a Third Engineer is a merchant marine engineering officer who has completed their Merchant Marine Officer 0102 exam (Line Track), or Merchant Marine Officer 0101 exam (Staff and Service tracks), and served as a Fourth Engineer for six months Time In Grade and have sufficient Promotion Points, they are eligible to be promoted to this rank by a promotion board. They hold the Paygrade of C-12

Real World A Third Assistant Engineer, is a licensed engineering officer (US term) or certificated officer (UK term). As an engineering officer they also hold an STCW endorsement as Officer In Charge of an Engineering Watch. They could be a watch stander, standing watch in the engine room, or a day worker on ships that have an unmanned engine room. Their primary duties are being in charge of the diesel generators, water production equipment, lube oil & lube oil systems and the sludge and bilge systems.

In the UK and other Commonwealth countries they are normally designated as Fourth Engineer, specifically not using the word Assistant Engineer.

Third Assistant Engineers are considered Operational Level officers.

Rank Name / Link: Second Engineer Text Second Engineer is a rank used by the Royal Manticoran Merchant Marine. Honorverse In the Honorverse, a Second Engineer is an engineering officer holding a Certificate of Competency (Star Empire of Manticore and other star nations) or a License as Second Engineer (some other star nations). They also hold an endorsement as Officer In Charge of an Engineering Watch. They are primarily a watchstander, standing watch in the engine room while underway. Their duties include inspection and upkeep of the reactors and associated power systems. On a passenger liner they could be the senior watch officer on one of the three watch sections where they oversee a Third Engineer and Technicians for that watch.

Second Assistant Engineers are considered Operational Level officers.

TRMN In TRMN, a Second Engineer is a merchant marine engineering officer who has completed their Merchant Marine Officer 0103 exam (Line Track), or Merchant Marine Officer 0102 exam (Staff track) or Merchant Marine Officer 0102 exam (Service tracks), and served as a Third Engineer for nine months Time In Grade and have sufficient Promotion Points, they are eligible to be promoted to this rank by a promotion board. They hold the Paygrade of C-13

Real World A Second Assistant Engineer, is a licensed engineering officer (US term) or certificated officer (UK term). As an engineering officer they also hold an STCW endorsement as Officer In Charge of an Engineering Watch. They could be a watch stander, standing watch in the engine room, or a day worker on ships that have an unmanned engine room. Their primary duties are being in charge of the fuel system and boilers.

In the UK and other Commonwealth countries they are normally designated as Third Engineer, specifically not using the word Assistant Engineer.

Second Assistant Engineers are considered Operational Level officers.

Rank Name / Link: Senior Second Engineer Text Senior Second Engineer is a rank used by the Royal Manticoran Merchant Marine.

Honorverse In the Honorverse, a Senior Second Engineer is an engineering officer holding a Certificate of Competency (Star Empire of Manticore and other star nations) or a License as Second Engineer (some other star nations). They also hold an endorsement as Officer In Charge of an Engineering Watch. This rank is only seen on passenger liners. They are primarily a watchstander, standing watch in the engine room while underway. Their duties would be the senior watch officer on one of the three watch sections where they oversee a Third Engineer and Technicians for that watch. The other two watch sections on a passenger liner would have a Second Engineer and a Third Engineer along with a number of Technicians.

Senior Second Assistant Engineers are considered Operational Level officers.

TRMN In TRMN, a Senior Second Engineer is a merchant marine engineering officer who has completed their Merchant Marine Officer 0104 exam (Line Track), or Merchant Marine Officer 0102 exam (Staff track or Service tracks), and served as a Second Engineer for twelve months Time In Grade and have sufficient Promotion Points, they are eligible to be promoted to this rank by a promotion board. They hold the Paygrade of C-14

Real World A Senior Second Assistant Engineer, is a licensed engineering officer (US term) or certificated officer (UK term). As an engineering officer they also hold an STCW endorsement as Officer In Charge of an Engineering Watch.

This rank is only seen on passenger liners. They are primarily a watchstander, standing watch in the engine room while underway. Their duties would be the senior watch officer on one of the three watch sections where they oversee a Third Engineer and number of unlicensed engineering crew.

Senior Second Assistant Engineers are considered Operational Level officers. Rank Name / Link: First Engineer Text First Engineer is a rank used by the Royal Manticoran Merchant Marine. Honorverse In the Honorverse, a First Engineer is an engineering officer holding a Certificate of Competency (Star Empire of Manticore and other star nations) or a License as First Engineer. They are primarily day workers. They are in charge of the hyperdrive and impeller systems.

First Engineers are considered Management Level officers.

TRMN In TRMN, a First Engineer is a merchant marine engineering officer who has completed their Merchant Marine Officer 0105 exam (Line Track), or Merchant Marine Officer 0103 exam (Staff track), and served as a Senior Second Engineer for fifteen months Time In Grade and have sufficient Promotion Points, they are eligible to be promoted to this rank by a promotion board. They hold the Paygrade of C-15

Real World The First Assistant Engineer, is a licensed engineering officer (US term) or certificated officer (UK term). As an engineering officer they also hold an STCW endorsement as Officer In Charge of an Engineering Watch. They could be a watch stander, standing watch in the engine room, or more commonly a day worker. Their primary duties are being in charge of the main engine (diesel, or gas turbine), reduction gears and main turbine on steam ships. They are in charge of the daily operation and running of the engine room and the other members of the department.

In the UK and other Commonwealth countries they are normally designated as Second Engineer, specifically not using the word Assistant Engineer. In the UK and other Commonwealth countries there is no First or First Assistant Engineer title.

First Assistant Engineers are considered Management Level officers.

Rank Name / Link: Chief Engineer Text Chief Engineer is a rank used by the Royal Manticoran Merchant Marine. Honorverse In the Honorverse, a Chief Engineer is an engineering officer holding a Certificate of Competency (Star Empire of Manticore and other star nations) or a License as Chief Engineer. They are day workers. They are in charge of the overall running of the engine department. .

Chief Engineers are considered Management Level officers. TRMN The Chief Engineer is the second highest rank on the ship, being a half step below the Master. In TRMN, a Chief Engineer is a merchant marine engineering officer who has completed their Merchant Marine Officer 0106 exam (Line Track), or Merchant Marine Officer 0103 exam (Staff track), and served as a First Engineer for eighteen months Time In Grade and have sufficient Promotion Points, they are eligible to be promoted to this rank by a promotion board. They hold the Paygrade of C-16

Real World The Chief Engineer is the head of the ship’s engine department and ranks similar to the Master, wearing 4 stripes. The Chief Engineer is a licensed engineering officer (US term) or certificated officer (UK term). As an engineering officer they also hold an STCW endorsement as Officer In Charge of an Engineering Watch.

The Chief Engineer is a day worker, and is in overall charge of the department. Their focus is often on the bigger picture than the day to day operation of the engine room.

Chief Engineers are considered Management Level officers.

References

https://wiki.trmn.org/wiki/index.php/Admiralty_Order_1612-06

https://wiki.trmn.org/wiki/index.php/Admiralty_Order_2307-02